Mary’s rape

Posted on September 30th, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.

same has gone for you dummy as you live more and more a lie as you
can’t handle Humanity growin into God making your Atheist claim just
an oxymoron.

On Sep 30, 3:34 am, Dev wrote:
> I’ll bet there are theists you like, but don’t want to mention certain
> things to, because you know what you learned about them would make you
> not like them anymore.
>
> On Sep 29, 8:41 pm, Drafterman wrote:
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> > On Sep 29, 10:01 pm, RGorden wrote:
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> > > On Sep 29, 9:50 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
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> > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:32 PM, RGorden wrote:
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> > > > > On Sep 29, 9:28 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, RGorden wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Sep 29, 6:52 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Dev
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > How the hell is it relevant to whether or not it is rape that God
> > > > > > > > > rewards people who do what He says? If a guy makes it clear to a
> > > > > woman
> > > > > > > > > he will kill her if she doesn’t fuck him, it doesn’t make it any
> > > > > less
> > > > > > > > > of a rape situation if he lets her go when she does.
>
> > > > > > > > This reminds me of the pedophile who rapes a child then buys the
> > > > > child
> > > > > > > ice
> > > > > > > > cream afterwards.
>
> > > > > > > > Did buying the ice cream afterwards make the rape okay?
>
> > > > > >  
>
> > > > > > > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > > > > > > > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at
> > > > > our
> > > > > > > > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > > > > > > > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted
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> > > > > > > No rape occurred.
>
> > > > > > > But on a similar vein, when did you stop beating your partner?
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> > > > Actually this was what was stupid and had no connection whatsoever to what
> > > > was said.
>
> > > > How’s your reading comprehension?
>
> > > > > > Well not really. You guys need to learn how to interpret  analogies.
>
> > > > > > I said, “This reminds me of the pedophile who rapes a child then buys the
> > > > > > child ice cream afterwards. Did buying the ice cream afterwards make the
> > > > > > rape okay?”
>
> > > > > > This was in reference to the logic you applied when you asked your
> > > > > question,
> > > > > > why aren’t we looking at all the good things your god is claimed to have
> > > > > > done.
>
> > > > > > Does spelling it out for you help?
>
> > > > > > –
> > > > > > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > > > > > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our
> > > > > > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > > > > > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
> > > > > to
> > > > > > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > >You guys need to learn how to interpret  analogies.
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> > > > > It’s a stupid analogy.
>
> > > > –
> > > > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > > > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our
> > > > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
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> > > > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
> > > > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted text -
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> > > How’s yours?  No rape happened.  She consented. No intercourse
> > > happened.  God is not a man.
>
> > > Maybe if you stopped thinking of God as a human, you would start to
> > > understand Him better.
>
> > This is why there is no such thing as Christian morality or logic and
> > why what Christians label as their morality and logic is obscene and
> > detestable.
>
> > If a human being had done a mere 1% of the violent acts God committed
> > in the bible a person giving verbal affirmative acknowledgment to a
> > request to carry this person’s child would not count as consent in the
> > manner that would absolve the person of a crime.
>
> > That is, he would be convicted of rape.
>
> > You offer no rational or sane reason why God is not subject to this
> > very same judgment.
>
> > Mary’s verbal acknowledgment in the affirmative to the act does not
> > count as consent, given God’s history for violence against those that
> > do not obey. Furthermore Mary could not have given consent because no
> > consent was asked for. The angel that appeared to her simply described
> > what was going to happen in a matter-of-fact way, as if it there was
> > no other choice. It is impossible to give consent for a request or
> > choice that was never given.
>
> > Second, intercourse did happen, even by the Bible’s own account:
>
> > “But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD
> > appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear
> > not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in
> > her is of the Holy Ghost.” - Matthew 1:20
>
> > Conceive - become pregnant;
>
> > Now maybe the God didn’t insert his God-penis into her human-vagina
> > and bare unto her his God-seed but actual penetration is not required
> > to be guilty of rape depending on the jurisdiction. It would, at the
> > very least, be sexual assault.
>
> > Thirdly, you claim God is not a man, despite God being referred to as
> > him. Now this is a much simpler matter as it doesn’t involve
> > complicated issues such as the fact that RAPE  IS A CRIME and is a
> > mere matter of grammar. Since you were apparently asleep during that
> > day in school the pronoun him refers to a male. Male is fancy talk for
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Mary’s rape

Posted on September 30th, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.

No dummy that is your department! you are also a compulsif liar that
anyone can see you lie in almost all your post just to say a lie.

On Sep 30, 3:30 am, Dev wrote:
> It isn’t about reading comprehension. It’s about the fact that theists
> think stupidity validates anything and everything.
>
> On Sep 29, 7:50 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
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>
>
> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:32 PM, RGorden wrote:
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> > > On Sep 29, 9:28 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:09 PM, RGorden wrote:
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> > > > > On Sep 29, 6:52 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Dev
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > How the hell is it relevant to whether or not it is rape that God
> > > > > > > rewards people who do what He says? If a guy makes it clear to a
> > > woman
> > > > > > > he will kill her if she doesn’t fuck him, it doesn’t make it any
> > > less
> > > > > > > of a rape situation if he lets her go when she does.
>
> > > > > > This reminds me of the pedophile who rapes a child then buys the
> > > child
> > > > > ice
> > > > > > cream afterwards.
>
> > > > > > Did buying the ice cream afterwards make the rape okay?
>
> > > >  
>
> > > > > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > > > > > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at
> > > our
> > > > > > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > > > > > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your
> > > right
> > > > > to
> > > > > > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted
> > > text -
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> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
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> > > > > No rape occurred.
>
> > > > > But on a similar vein, when did you stop beating your partner?
>
> > Actually this was what was stupid and had no connection whatsoever to what
> > was said.
>
> > How’s your reading comprehension?
>
> > > > Well not really. You guys need to learn how to interpret  analogies.
>
> > > > I said, “This reminds me of the pedophile who rapes a child then buys the
> > > > child ice cream afterwards. Did buying the ice cream afterwards make the
> > > > rape okay?”
>
> > > > This was in reference to the logic you applied when you asked your
> > > question,
> > > > why aren’t we looking at all the good things your god is claimed to have
> > > > done.
>
> > > > Does spelling it out for you help?
>
> > > > –
> > > > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > > > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our
> > > > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > > > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
> > > to
> > > > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted text -
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> > > >You guys need to learn how to interpret  analogies.
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> > > It’s a stupid analogy.
>
> > –
> > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our
> > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
> > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted text -
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Mary’s rape

Posted on September 30th, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.

but you are a dummy saying rape when no rape or even loss of a
virginity… so you are a complete idiot unable to face the data and
unable to cope with facts given and simply play the ultimate loser in
all your posts.

On Sep 30, 2:35 am, Dev wrote:
> Precisely.
>
> Now, of course we don’t believe this actually happened if we’re not
> retarded. But the fact that Christians think this happened and talk
> about it like they think it’s okay, well, that kind of establishes a
> good case for why the world would be better without any Christians
> from a “rape is bad” perspective, ya know?
>
> On Sep 29, 4:52 pm, “Trance Gemini” wrote:
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>
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> > On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Dev wrote:
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> > > How the hell is it relevant to whether or not it is rape that God
> > > rewards people who do what He says? If a guy makes it clear to a woman
> > > he will kill her if she doesn’t fuck him, it doesn’t make it any less
> > > of a rape situation if he lets her go when she does.
>
> > This reminds me of the pedophile who rapes a child then buys the child ice
> > cream afterwards.
>
> > Did buying the ice cream afterwards make the rape okay?
>
> > > On Sep 29, 12:46 pm, RGorden wrote:
> > > > On Sep 29, 2:22 pm, Drafterman wrote:
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> > > > > RGorden wrote:
> > > > > > On Sep 29, 1:39 pm, Dev wrote:
> > > > > > > The implication is still that if you can get verbal consent with
> > > > > > > implied threats, it isn’t rape, which is disgusting. After all, God
> > > > > > > made no secret out of the fact that he punished everyone who
> > > disobeyed
> > > > > > > him, and the Bible also says that Mary was afraid.
>
> > > > > > > On Sep 29, 8:43 am, RGorden wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Sep 28, 1:49 pm, duke wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > The holy spirit did not have permission from Mary to get her
> > > > > > > > > impregnated.This ghost commited adultery,which resulted in a
> > > bastard
> > > > > > > > > child!!!!!
>
> > > > > > > > According to Luke, Mary did agree to this, after the angel tells
> > > her
> > > > > > > > what is going to happen.
>
> > > > > > > > Luke1:38 “I am the Lord’s servant,” Mary answered. “May it be to
> > > me as
> > > > > > > > you have said.” Then the angel left her.
>
> > > > > > > > So, it would seem that Mary consented.
>
> > > > > > > > However, if it makes you feel better to post garbage that anyone
> > > with
> > > > > > > > access to a bible can refute, go ahead. You’ll have tons of
> > > support
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> > > > > > What threats?
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> > > > > The entire Old Testament is a gory depiction of what God does to
> > > > > people that don’t listen to him.
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> > > > Then you’re missing out on alot of good things that happened to people
> > > > who DID obey God.
> > > > Why not focus on that?
>
> > > > > > Specifically, what threat was made to Mary?
>
> > > > > Scenario:
>
> > > > > Man breaks into house. Lines up family one by one. Goes down the line
> > > > > and shoots each family member in the head. Gets to the Mom at the end
> > > > > of the line and say she wants to have sex with her.
>
> > > > > The mother says “May it be to me as you have said”
>
> > > > > Not rape, right?
>
> > > > > After all, there was no specific threat made against her.
>
> > > > I asked for a specific threat, come up with one, not a stupid analogy.
>
> > > > > > What would her punishment be?
>
> > > > > Take your choosing:
>
> > > > > Permanently evicted from her home
> > > > > Drowned in a global deluge
> > > > > Fire
> > > > > Brimstone
> > > > > Turned to salt (And all she did was glance over her shoulder!)
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> > > > Too bad you’re so transfixed on what happens to people who don’t obey
> > > > God.
> > > > Now, try and find out what God does, or promises to those who DO obey
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> > –
> > Trance Gemini, AvC Anti-Spam Brigade.
>
> > “We have a natural right to make use of our pens as of our tongue, at our
> > peril, risk and hazard.”  ~Voltaire, Dictionnaire Philosophique, 1764
>
> > “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to
> > say it,” — Evelyn Beatrice Hall, Voltaire Biographer- Hide quoted text -
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