God or Not?

What is God’s Plan?

Posted on July 23rd, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.

>I’m sure you’ll reel
in a few dumbasses with that one.

“He’s hooked, He’s hooked; His brain is cooked!”~Dr. Demento, from
hell, I dunno.

On Jul 23, 9:25 am, Neil Kelsey wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:51 pm, Bob Crowley wrote:
>
> > As a Christian, if you ever figure out what God’s plan is, let me
> > know.  The fact that I attempt to argue His existence, or “Being” to
> > be more accurate, doesn’t mean that I’ve got Him figured out.  What I
> > do know is that He’s offering all of us eternal life, if we’re
> > interested.
>
> You don’t *know* that. You don’t even know if God exists.
>
> > In fact, as I read the message, we’ve all got eternal
> > life anyway, whether we want it or not.
>
> And that is not a fact. A fact is something like “water becomes ice at
> 32 degrees Farenheit.” A fact is not your wishful thinking disguised
> in your language of confidence. Are you aware that is what a con-man
> is? A “confidence” man? Someone who sounds confident (”In fact, as I
> read the message, we’ve all got eternal life anyway, whether we want
> it or not,” or “What I do know is that He’s offering all of us eternal
> life, if we’re interested.”), which can be convincing to the gullible.
> Hell, it can be convincing to themselves…do you even realize you’re
> a con-man?
>
> > I haven’t got a Bible handy at this point in time, but somewhere in
> > the Gospels Christ makes the comment that “To God, all men are
> > alive”.  That means all men and women, past, present and future, in
> > God’s unbounded Now.
>
> That’s not what it means to me. It means Christ is wrong. Most men are
> dead, or not born yet.
>
> > He can see the choices we’ll make in the face of
> > that unbounded Now also.
>
> “Unbounded now” sounds so impressive, doesn’t it? I’m sure you’ll reel
> in a few dumbasses with that one.
>
> > The point is where will we spend that eternal life?
>
> Oh. Sorry. Your arguments by assertion have not established that there
> IS eternal life. The problem is that you’re not addressing the
> gullible here. Your con-man language only inspires laughter, rolling
> of the eyes, and forehead smacking. You’ll have better success
> indoctrinating defenceless children.
>
> > However He doesn’t seem to have made the entry conditions to the
> > Beatific Vision particularly easy.  In fact, He so seems to have
> > designed the system so that Faith is a necessary prerequisite.  Which
> > makes it a lot more democratic, since the poor and weak can compete in
> > this area with those who might otherwise have been given an unfair
> > advantage by superior natural gifts.
>
> That is a great way to distract the poor and the weak from the fact
> that they’re being robbed by the religious.
>
> > The word by the way is “Gifts” - not even Albert Einstein gave himself
> > his own peculiar genius, but it was all given to him as a gift.  He
> > had to use it, but it was still a gift.
>
> His mommy and daddy had sex, his mommy got pregnant, and anything that
> was “given” to him came from their genes. Quite likely they weren’t
> planning on giving Albert anything, but were more interested in the
> pleasure of the moment. I guess you missed biology lessons that year.
> The rest was hard work, not only by Albert, but by that of his
> rational predecessors (the ones that ignored a religious explanation
> for the natural world) and contemporaries.
>
> It’s interesting (and disgusting) how the religious try to co-opt
> human accomplishments as their own once they realize they can no
> longer suppress their achievements.
>
> > On Jul 23, 7:47 am, trog69 wrote:
>
> > > Keith proposed, in a previous thread that we assume [ for the sake of
> > > argument ] that God does exist. I’d like to go even further, and
> > > suppose that the bible is indeed the holy word of God. One thing I’d
> > > have to add, to reel me in this far, is that God, for whatever reason,
> > > is tied to this plane of existence, even if not it’s physics. My
> > > Question is: Why would God necessarily tell us the truth, about
> > > anything? Nothing can prevent God from doing whatever it wants. So,
> > > why is the entire book of the bible proof of any truth. Couldn’t God
> > > have wanted the oppressive situation in many Islamic countries, and
> > > the Wall of Separation being torn at by the religious right here in
> > > the States? What prevents all of our reality from being a mere game of
> > > Dungeons and Dragons meets the Sims, for God and his Bud, Jesus?
>
> > > ( It’s cool, Keith; I just needed your supposition. This question is
> > > not directed only at you. ; )- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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