Posted on June 30th, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.
On Jun 28, 9:10 pm, Drafterman wrote:
> On Jun 28, 2:16 pm, Alan Wostenberg wrote:
>
> > On Jun 28, 4:45 am, Drafterman wrote:
>
> > > The point is to discover the world as it is, not as some dusty old
> > > book tells me how it is.
>
> > And how shall I discover the world as it it is? To set upon that good
> > goal, is to have a prior belief that the world is the kind of thing
> > that is knowable. Nobody sets out to discover “I wonder if the world
> > is knowable?”. That the world is knowable is a faith postulate, for
> > the atheist. Not so, for the Christian.
>
> Actually it is not a faith postulate. Rather it is the only acceptable
> outcome.
> If the world is knowable, then we can attempt to know it.
> If the world is not knowable, then we wouldn’t know that it is not
> knowable, since knowing that it is not knowable requires us to know
> something about it.
> Ergo, the world is knowable.
D, I can’t put my finger on what’s wrnog. Maybe you can. Let’s s/world/
God:
The point is to discover God as he is.
If God is knowable, we can attempt to know Him.
If God is not knowable, then we would not know He is not knowabe,
since knowing that He is not knowable requires is to know something
about Him.
Ergo, God is knowable.
The statement “the point is to discover God as he is” is equivalent to
the statement “the point is to know the world as it is”. If one is
valid, so is the other. Your thoughts?
I’d like to step back a bit. To Nik’s original “what is the point of
your belief or lack of”, you answered “The point is…”. But can any
atheist answer for all atheists? While Christians do say the point is
to know and love God, there is no X for which all atheists would agree
“the point is X”. Hence, the true atheist must admit there is no
point. Life is pointless.
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