God or Not?

God is Near

Posted on May 31st, 2008 by admin.
Categories: Ranting.

On May 31, 12:57 pm, omprem wrote:
> If you want to know about books, guides and gurus and methodology then
> visit a religion and ask one of its more aware practitioners. If you
> present yourself as a sincere and willing person all shall be given to
> you.

Unlikely, as I presented myself as a sincere and willing person and
yet nothing has been given to me by way of an actual answer to a very
simple question:

How do you know this poem is an accurate depiction of an authentic
spiritual experience?

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> On May 30, 9:41 am, Drafterman wrote:
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> > On May 30, 9:14 am, omprem wrote:
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> > > There have been thousands of books written on that subject.
>
> > Can you cite the specific books that contain the criteria you used to
> > determine that this poem is an accurate depiction of an authentic
> > spiritual experience?
>
> > > There are
> > > thousands of guides and gurus to whom one can turn.
>
> > Which guides and gurus did you turn to to determine that this poem is
> > an accurate depiction of an authentic spiritual experience?
>
> > > A key tip is that
> > > as long as your consciousness has any content in it, you have not gone
> > > far enough: content is phenomenality and phenomenality is not God.
>
> > What methods did you use to determine the level of content in the
> > consciousness of the author of this poem?
>
> > > On May 29, 2:24 pm, Drafterman wrote:
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> > > > On May 29, 12:34 pm, omprem wrote:
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> > > > > An excellent question. A spiritual experience is only ‘inauthentic’
> > > > > in the sense that the person thinks that he/she has had the ultimate
> > > > > experience of God when in fact they have only had a partial experience
> > > > > and have chosen to stop their journey because of ego or have
> > > > > mistakenly their misinterpretation of a spiritual experience for the
> > > > > ultimate experience and have a skewed notion of God. Those inauthentic
> > > > > spiritual experiences constitute what is known as spiritual emergence
> > > > > syndrome.
>
> > > > Ok, you’ve explained to me what an inauthentic experience is. I’m
> > > > asking how you can tell the difference. You state that the author of
> > > > this poem is portraying an authentic experience. How did you come to
> > > > that conclusion?
>
> > > > > On May 29, 10:04 am, Drafterman wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 29, 9:50 am, omprem wrote:
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> > > > > > > Some of you may enjoy the following poem by Swami Sivananda and
> > > > > > > recognize its portrayal of authentic spiritual experience. Others
> > > > > > > might learn from it, develop some inquisitiveness and come to know
> > > > > > > God.
>
> > > > > > Interesting. How can you tell authentic spiritual experiences from
> > > > > > inauthentic ones?
>
> > > > > > > GOD IS NEAR
>
> > > > > > > Every breath that flows in the nose,
> > > > > > > Every beat that throbs in the heart,
> > > > > > > Every artery that pulsates in the body,
> > > > > > > Every thought that arises in the mind,
> > > > > > > Speaks to you that God is near.
>
> > > > > > > Every flower that wafts fragrance,
> > > > > > > Every fruit that attracts you,
> > > > > > > Every gentle breeze that blows,
> > > > > > > Every river that smoothly flows,
> > > > > > > Speaks of God and His mercy.
>
> > > > > > > The vast ocean with its powerful waves,
> > > > > > > The mighty Himalayas with its glaciers,
> > > > > > > The bright sun and stars in the wide sky,
> > > > > > > The lofty tree with its branches,
> > > > > > > The cool springs in the hills and dales,
> > > > > > > Tell you of His omnipresence.
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> > > > > > > The music of the sweet singers,
> > > > > > > The lectures of the powerful orators,
> > > > > > > The poems of the reputed poets,
> > > > > > > The inventions of the able scientists,
> > > > > > > The operations of the dexterous surgeons,
> > > > > > > The utterances of the holy saints,
> > > > > > > The thoughts of the Bhagavad Gita,
> > > > > > > The revelations of the Upanishads,
> > > > > > > Speak of God and His wisdom.
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> > > > > > > — Sri Swami Sivananda- Hide quoted text -
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